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  Could a JW be DF for celebrating Festivus?

  by Stealth in

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  after all, it's a secular holiday not a religious holiday.. if i was still an active member, i think i would start a new tradition of celebrating festivus.

  most likely no jws would come, but that's okay, it's a famiily holiday anyway.. what grounds would the elders have to disfellowship you?.

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  You know, the word Festivus does seem to have a Latin ring to it ... perhaps pointing to it's pagan Roman origins?
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  your favourite Christmas music , and merry Christmas to you all

  by jhine in

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  i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .

  it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .

  please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .

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  Colleen Grant - Latin Parang:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VTgObSpoA

  Singing Francine - Parang Parang:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i5T2-6jGBw

  Singing Francine - Ay Ay Maria:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThHWkHmJgTM
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  Life On Mars?

  by metatron in

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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-finds-evidence-of-life-on-mars-9929510.html.

  perhaps life in mars would be more accurate.

  also, recent study of martian meteorites have yielded organic material.. .

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  I think it's possible. But I think Europa is an even better candidate for life.
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  Governing Body business cards

  by LogCon in

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  Quick! Do a human hot dog in tight pants one of Tony Morriss III!
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  I'm having fun with this Christmas stuff!!

  by truthseekeriam in

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  here is our puppy proof christmas tree.. .

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  Have fun!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VTgObSpoA
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  Greek Mythology influence on New Testament

  by Magnum in

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  a few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.

  as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.

  why would bible writers have used such terms?

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  The virgin birth of Jesus appears to be a borrowing of the virgin birth meme found in many pre-christian myths about the births of demigods. Note too that Matthew 1:23 appears to deliberately twist Isaiah 7:14 to support the ingrafting of this pagan virgin birth meme into christianity. Isaiah uses the word "maiden" meaning simply a young woman. But Matthew twists it to say virgin. So the whole virgin birth story of Jesus is based on what appears to be a deliberately false transation/quoting of Isaiah 7:14 in an effort to incorporate a popular pagan meme into the new christian cult. In many respects christianity is a sychretic religion that combines Judaism with pre-existing pagan traditions. A lot of the pagan traditions are in the form of pagan stories rewritten within the gospel narratives with tweaks here and there as they're applied to Jesus. But most christians are unaware of this because they are unaware of these ancient pagan traditions and stories that clearly inspired the NT.

  This video is recommended viewing (fast forward to the 27:45 mark where actual lecture starts):

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILldt2XHZw0
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  New light scripture??

  by Daisychaindream in

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  i've seen it mentioned in a few posts and i didn't want to high jack!

  can anyone explain what this is about?.

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  Any time JWs quote Proverbs 4:18 to justify changing teachings you simply reply by telling them to read Ephesians 4:14 and 2 Timothy 3:7:

  "in order that we should no longer be babes, tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error." - Ephesians 4:14

  "always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." - 2 Timothy 3:7
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  "The Friends"

  by FeelingFree in

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  i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

  never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

  is it just used in america?.

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  " My old-timer Uncle in Brooklyn refers to them as "the friends" and yeah, it sounds creepy/culty as can be."

  Yes but not as creepy and culty as "the Slave" in a statement like "This is what the slave is telling us"
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  Do Jws even need Jesus?

  by TTWSYF in

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  just thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.

  how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .

  well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.

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  To JWs, Jesus only exists on paper for doctrinal purposes only. Outside of that, he's not on the JWs' hearts and therefore not on their lips. You never hear JWs talk about Jesus outside the context of formal doctrine. For example, you will never hear a JW refer to JWs as being "servants of Jesus". you But you will hear them using the term "servants of Jehovah". You will never hear a JW referring to organizational direction as coming from Jesus. But they will speak about organizational direction coming from Jehovah. You will see many NT texts where Jesus is praised by the writer, such as 2 Peter 3:18. But you will never hear a JW praising Jesus. JWs only talk about Jehovah, the organization and the faithful and discreet slave. Jesus is shoved in the background like he's someone they're ashamed of.
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  Arguably the best debunker on YouTube

  by Terry in

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  this fellow's channel is called watchtower examination.. he is clear, reasonable, thoughtful--but best of all--his teaching method with visuals is perfection!.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcep7v1i1o.

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  He is very good. I think being a never-JW brings an advantage to the table. Ex-JWs - esp. born-ins - can sometimes miss certain disturbing things about JW culture simply because they have been desensitized by long exposure to it, or, as in the case of born-ins, it's all they've known all their life and so it may not strike them as odd. But a never-JW is more sensitive to all the craziness of JW culture because he was never acclimatized to the craziness.